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Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Daniel » 15 apr 2014, 14:22

Goedemiddag,

kan iemand mij helpen met het volgende want deze vraag is nog nooit gesteld:

Ik wil graag een toerenteller in mijn 230TE M102 motor zetten.
Nu kan ik er een uit een 230 caburateur kopen, gaat dit passen zonder al te veel aanpassingen?

Alvast bedankt voor de moeite,

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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Bob » 15 apr 2014, 14:45

Zou moeten kunnen. Bij allebei wordt het toeren signaal v/d ontsteking gehaald.
Bij de "E" is het een elektronische ontsteking maar dit hoeft geen beletsel te zijn.

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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor 230teee » 15 apr 2014, 14:56

En mocht het niet passen, heb je hem zo weer verkocht...
Zijn zeer gewild toerentellers

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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor MB280E » 15 apr 2014, 19:44

Werkt NIET.
Echter ze zijn zeldzaam en gewild.
Niet laten liggen als de prijs goed is.
M102 heeft electronische ontsteking en 230 carburattor werkt nog met contact puntjes.
Signaal voor de toerenteller is dus anders.

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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Daniel » 15 apr 2014, 21:24

heren bedankt voor jullie antwoord, is nog wat onenigheid of het wel werkt of niet.
Ga de klok gewoon kopen, prijs is laag en dan ga ik mij er even in verdiepen.

foto van de toerenteller heb ik erbij gedaan:
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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Hans230CE » 15 apr 2014, 21:40

Passen is geen probleem, maar zo als Jan zegt werkt hij niet zoals het moet. :S
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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Bob » 15 apr 2014, 21:56

Hallo Daniel, heb verschillende keren dit aan de hand gehad en wil je wel helpen om het te laten werken.
Je zou langs kunnen komen (Nieuw Vennep), dan kunnen we samen wel een kijken.
Zoals ik al eerder zei, hoeft het verschil tussen elektronische ontsteking en oudere puntjes ontsteking. geen probleem te zijn.

Laat maar weten als ik kan helpen (Stuur maar een PM'tje).

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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Daniel » 15 apr 2014, 22:37

hoi Bob,

dat is een tof aanbod, mocht ik er niet uitkomen dan stuur ik je pb om afspraak te maken.
woon in Purmerend, dus Nieuw Vennep is niet ver.

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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Robin-H » 15 apr 2014, 23:00

Probeer overigens of je de bekabeling er ook bij kunt krijgen, in hoeverre die gelijk is weet ik niet, maar MB durft zonder blikken of blozen €72 ex btw voor dat metertje kabel te vragen.
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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Govert » 16 apr 2014, 07:34

De kabel is gewoon electrische draad, kan je overal kopen. Je hebt twee stukjes draad nodig, een voor de voeding en een voor de ontsteking. Voor de aansluiting aan de voeding en ontsteking heb je kabeloogjes of kabelschoentjes nodig. Je kan nog een krimpkous om de draden doen, of je gebruikt dubbeldraad, alleen het gedeelte in de auto zou bij elkaar gehouden moeten worden. Het enige MB-specifieke is de stekker aan de toerenteller, maar het is een standaard-stekkertje. Kan je nieuw kopen bij de dealer (zal toch geen €72 kosten?) of ergens van een sloop-w123 halen.
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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Govert » 16 apr 2014, 19:22

Ik heb het nog even nagekeken:

Stekkertje bestaat uit:
A0085453828
A0085453728

en dan nog de contacten in de stekker:
A0035452626 (daar heb je twee stuks van nodig)

Kosten per stuk volgens MB Duitsland totaal zo'n €7.

Draad moet je vervolgens zelf aan de contacten solderen. De oogjes moet je ook zelf maken.
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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Daniel » 16 apr 2014, 21:27

Hoi Govert,

bedankt voor de uitgebreide beschrijving.
Ik hoop dat ik de klok volgende week binnenkrijg en dan laat ik wel weten of
alles werkt en wat ik ben tegen gekomen.

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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Hans230CE » 16 apr 2014, 21:55

Das Govert, het W123 brein :laugh: :laugh: :wink :wink
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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Daniel » 09 nov 2015, 21:53

Goedenavond,

eindelijk na anderhalf jaar heb ik de toerenteller gemonteerd.
Door Govert zijn hulp heb ik alle onderdelen besteld en gemonteerd.
Was echt een simpel klusje. Ben echt helemaal blij met mijn werkende toerenteller.
Heb gelijk ook alleen wijzernaalden netjes geverfd.

Ik snap niet dat ik dit niet eerder heb uigevoerd haha.

bedankt nogmaals
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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 10 nov 2015, 01:20

Daniel,
Kun je nog wat specifieker zijn, hoe je de toerenteller voor contactpunten werkend hebt gekregen in een auto met electronische ontsteking?
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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Daniel » 10 nov 2015, 22:01

Ik heb volgende website als ondersteuning geprobeerd.

http://www.benzgarage.de/technik/dzm/dzm.html

de toerenteller kwam uit carburateur versie, maar hij werkt nu ook in m102.
Ik ben heeeeel blij met het resultaat, maakt de auto een stuk completer weer.
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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor RD500sec » 10 nov 2015, 23:54

Heb je de toerenteller nog aan moeten passen?
Volgens eerdere berichten zou het immers niet werken?
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Re: Toerenteller 230 carburateur in 230E m102

Berichtdoor Daniel » 11 nov 2015, 22:31

ik heb de toerenteller helemaal niet hoeven aanpassen gelukkig.
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