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Cruise control

Berichtdoor 76RXVD » 07 nov 2007, 11:11

In mijn 230E automaat van eind '81 wil ik cruise control inbouwen (laten?).

Inmiddels heb ik begrepen dat de John Gold AP50 (= Conrad ZT50? = WAECO MagicSpeed MS50?) het prima doet. Hier voor moeten magneetjes aan de cardan gemaakt worden, zodat de snelheid gemeten kan worden met een Hall gever.

Deze magneetjes zijn niet nodig als de auto een electronisch snelheidssignaal heeft. Op een Duitse site lees ik dat de 230E vanaf 9/'81 "Schubabschaltung" heeft. Daarbij zou achter het instrumentenpaneel een zwart kastje zitten, een snelheidsignaalgever. Van deze signaalgever zou je de snelheidinformatie kunnen aftappen voor andere types cruise control, zoals de John Gold AP300 (= Waeco MS300?).

Heeft iemend ervaring met het aftappen van het snelheids signaal om een cruise control aan te sturen? Ook bij mijn type auto?

Als ik een cruise control wil laten inbouwen, wat mag dat kosten?

Marcel
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor Rob Holewijn » 08 nov 2007, 00:39

Dat klopt achte op de snelheids meter zit een sensor waar je twee draden op kunt aansluiten.
De originele haalt daar ook zijn signal vandaan, dus een ander kan dat denk ik ook.
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor Haplo » 12 nov 2007, 14:09

Heeft een 300TD (zonder standaard cruise control, ik wil deze ook achteraf inbouwen) dit electronisch snelheids signaal ook??

Groeten Bert.
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor Bogent » 12 nov 2007, 18:49

Ik heb een magneetje op de cardanas geplaatst, van de bijgeleverde montage materialen een beugeltje gemaakt voor de hall sensor dat werkt perfekt
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor Rob Holewijn » 12 nov 2007, 19:54

Je zult je meters er ff uit moeten halen om achter op te kijken.
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor Haplo » 13 nov 2007, 11:20

Dan moet ik natuurlijk wel weten waar ik naar zoek.. Een zwart kastje is zo algemeen... En achterop de snelheidsmeter is ook een beetje globaal. De een bedoeld daar de meter zelf mee, en de volgende de hele klokken-winkel...

Natuurlijk werkt het magneetje op de cardanas ook, maar vindt het netter als ik dat kan vermijden...

Maar bij geen verder gehoor, zal ik de meters er inderdaad uithalen, en gaan zoeken...
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor 76RXVD » 15 nov 2007, 08:38

Hallo Haplo,

Kun jij misschien een foto maken als je op zoek gaat naar dat zwarte kastje achterop het dashboard? Dan weet ik misschien ook hoe dat ding eruit ziet.

Ik probeer hieronder een plaatje van de achterzijde van een dashboard te zetten dat ik geleend heb van de uitstekende Duitse site Benzgarage.de. Misschien herkent iemand het zwarte kastje dat het snelheidssignaal geeft (indien aanwezig)?

Marcel

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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » 15 nov 2007, 09:42

Op deze foto is dat volgens mij niet aanwezig. Het moet een klein zwart kastje zijn wat echt achterop de snelheidsmeter hoort te zitten, daar waar zo'n beetje de kabel van de kilometerteller aangesloten zit.
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor Govert » 15 nov 2007, 09:48

Er staat een plaatje met de snelheidsopnemer in het volgende .
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor 76RXVD » 15 nov 2007, 10:14

Het is altijd weer geweldig hoe het forum me weet te helpen!

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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor JantjeV8 » 15 nov 2007, 11:25

Om kippevel van te krijgen...
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor Haplo » 15 nov 2007, 16:31

Nou zekers.. Toppie! :)

Ik heb tegelijkertijd nog een thread geopend op een Amerikaans forum waar ik veel kom. Ook veel info te vinden.

Zie:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e- ... ost2623249

Daar kwam ik erachter dat alle meters uitgerust zijn VOOR een electronische opnemer, maar de meeste 'm niet hebben (althans in Europa). Hierdoor is ie echter wel makkelijk te voorzien van dit kastje. Kwestie van zoeken op ebay(.de), of nieuw kopen.. Een mooi alternatief voor een hall-sensor op de cardan-as... Altans in mijn opinie.. ;)
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor 76RXVD » 17 nov 2007, 21:47

Vandaag maar eens mijn meterunit eruit gehaald. Wat blijkt, mijn 230E uit oktober '81 heeft al een snelheidsgever! Meteen maar een aftakking gemaakt (en de dimmer kortgesloten).

Marcel

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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor Leon » 17 nov 2007, 23:51

Wat doe je met die kapotte dimmer?

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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor 76RXVD » 18 nov 2007, 09:14

De kapotte dimmer zit er nog in. Hij was overigens echt kapot en niet geoxideerd. De veer hing half naar buiten en was grotendeels geplet.
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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor JBenz » 18 nov 2007, 17:13

Ben een 230TE aan het ontmantelen met tempomat, wil deze eveneens in mijn 300TD overplaatsen.
Hoop met deze tips vertrokken te zijn!

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Re:Cruise control

Berichtdoor 76RXVD » 20 nov 2007, 14:29

Hallo JBenz,

Waar zat de vacuumunit in de 230E gemonteerd? Hoe was de kabel aan de gasstangen bevestigd?

Heeft iemand anders een tip of foto over de inbouwplaatsen van de onderdelen voor de cruise control in een 230E?

Marcel
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